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by JGD
15 Jul 2018 18:25
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gasometers – A Compromise
Replies: 26
Views: 14248

Re: Bell Green Gasometers – A Compromise

To General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett, VC, KCB, DSO (aka EUSSR)

Meh - me too.
by JGD
15 Jul 2018 18:20
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gasometers – A Compromise
Replies: 26
Views: 14248

Re: Bell Green Gasometers – A Compromise

Congratulation Robin - this is NOT a well-formed Latin sentence. Something to do with flogging dead horses is sooo accurate and well perceived. The translation at one point had me as the dead horse that I should stop flogging - in interpretive terms it is probably an equally astute and accurate obse...
by JGD
15 Jul 2018 12:21
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gasometers – A Compromise
Replies: 26
Views: 14248

Re: Bell Green Gasometers – A Compromise

The decision point has passed. LB Lewisham has granted permission for the demolition proposal to proceed. SGN's agent's Montagu Evans in their cover letter for the application inserted this paragraph at page 5,: "Without prejudice to the submitted details, SGN recognise that the gasholders are Local...
by JGD
15 Jul 2018 09:01
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

Pally It is confusing - our esteemed councillors have now decreed that affordable social housing is key for this site. Despite not having brought forward a proposer/developer or the required funding for this. And having permitted officers to consult on an entirely different type of development for o...
by JGD
15 Jul 2018 08:44
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

JGD, Regarding the very sensible sounding procedures and conditions that bind the developers, I refer you to the St Philip Neri school redevelopment. Multiple breaches of planning agreement, but no enforcement visible, and the build continues. I keep being told by councillors that Lewisham is afrai...
by JGD
14 Jul 2018 17:34
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

Here is the extract from the letter received today advising me that permission to demolish had been granted. Rather interestingly the letter is dated 11 July - the decision must have been made then. " Prior notification of the demolition of the two existing gasholders and ancillary buildings at Bell...
by JGD
13 Jul 2018 19:23
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

JGD, those conditions seem absolute to me, assuming they still apply and somehow haven't been or won't be cast aside if a new development application is presented. broken_shaman: You say " ...and Sydenham got nothing out of the 'deal' to tackle the wider issues of congestion and pollution in the ar...
by JGD
12 Jul 2018 22:41
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

There are four conditions attached to the Decision Notice at https://planning.lewisham.gov.uk/online-applications/files/A5AA1430E36122876AB2D361E619525B/pdf/DC_18_107607-Decision_Notice-703390.pdf Conditions 3 and 4 appear to very properly specify not only what remediation is required but what monit...
by JGD
11 Jul 2018 07:34
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

There has been an appeal lodged against the council's refusal of the Aldi store so, in addition to the new application for demolition alone, there is a live proposal for the Aldi store. ........ There are no plans to demolish or directly alter The Livesey Hall and its Perimeter Wall and the War Mem...
by JGD
10 Jul 2018 20:58
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Why high streets die
Replies: 18
Views: 7738

Re: Why high streets die

Thank you parker - how could I omit the treasured 352.

And whilst the 75 does not reach Bell Green - it is a real diamond if you are in Sydenham and want an alternative route to Catford.
by JGD
10 Jul 2018 15:35
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Why high streets die
Replies: 18
Views: 7738

Re: Why high streets die

JayB Would be interested to see where TfL publishes this result and how it scores the locations using what criteria. We live an approx 4-5 min walk from Bell Green. we have the 181's & 202's go past our door and we can get to Crystal Palace, Blackheath and Lewisham using them. We use the 356, 450 an...
by JGD
10 Jul 2018 14:32
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

LadyLewisham - your interpretation is very close to the way I understand things to be - I think you have the rights of it with one exception - SGN having secured it means the demolition can go ahead without further consent or approval being required. At risk of repetition: Approval of “Prior Notific...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 19:03
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

You have a very good visual imagination then, as you've never seen Livesey Hall without them. I'm impressed by the way you can mentally picture the scene without these monumental structures which have been there for nearly 130 years clearly enough to know that their disappearance wouldn't adversely...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 18:50
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

Nicknack I stand corrected. There is - and has been for some considerable time - some seven lanes of dual carriageway (is that a record locally ?) from the junction of Stanton Way to the division at Bell Green. It is certainly short but no less significant for that. But it does not reach the gas hol...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 12:20
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

JRW - I would not dispute SGN's ownership - particularly if you have visibility of the Land Registry documents. You may have further insight as to who or what has the tenancy and has the necessary licence from the local authority. But on a week-on-week basis there is significant volume of business b...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 11:02
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

Michael You must either have an inside line or possess more diligence than me in searching the planning portal for the lodging of an appeal. I genuinely did not spot it. If it were to succeed the original plans had the surroundings alter to one low rise retail warehouse, one block of offices and two...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 10:46
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

........ and dual carriageways. Have not seen any dual carriageways - existing or proposed. And as I have said before the visual amenity debate can go on unresolved interminably. It's my view - and I respect yours too - is that the Livesey Hall , its perimeter wall and War Memorial present themselv...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 08:15
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

Dear Confused of Turnbridge Wells. Perhaps I can help. The current plans also involve developing on most of the land belonging to the Livesey Hall, making its future as any kind of community asset very uncertain. SGN needs to clarify its intentions regarding the Hall, given that they own it outright...
by JGD
9 Jul 2018 07:52
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Sydenham Station - Man hurt on early morning of 8 July
Replies: 6
Views: 4312

Sydenham Station - Man hurt on early morning of 8 July

A man who got onto the track in the early hours of 8 July and made contact with the third rail is said to have life-changing injuries but they are considered not to be life-threatening.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16340 ... ef=mr&lp=5
by JGD
6 Jul 2018 07:15
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2018.
Replies: 212
Views: 109443

Re: Bell Green Gas Holders - Proposal to Demolish in April 2

In planning decision terms, it surely can't be possible to give a conditional demolition permit (aside from "cleaning" any toxins), e.g. "but only if you replace it with something good as yet unspecified". Or am I not keeping up at the back? I think the people at the back are keeping up fine. At le...