Stereoviews of the Crystal Palace by Negretti & Zambra

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Stereoviews of the Crystal Palace by Negretti & Zambra

Post by tulse hill terry » 23 Dec 2007 11:22

This is really a report on the sets of labels and descriptions on the back of stereoviews.

No snickering from “macleanmuir.”

This is because stereoscopic images were reissued in different sets, as well as printed up as single images.

There is potential till the end of time, for unknown or missing views to surface.

Who knows, a reader of this forum may hold some missing link?

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Negretti & Zambra stand at the Crystal Palace, Sydenham.

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Crystal Palace Art Union - A series of Twenty Stereoscopic views Illustrating the most attractive aspects of the Crystal Palace. Executed especially for the Society by, Negretti & Zambra Hatton Garden & Cornhill, London. 1859.

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1. The Italian Court (The Tomb of Lorenzo de Medici, attached to the church of San Lorenzo at Florence.

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2. The Byzantine Court.

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3. The French and Italian Mediaeval Vestibule.

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4. The Egyptian Court.

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5. Northern nave and Transept.

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6. The Alhambra Court.

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7. The Bronze Fountain.

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8. The Byzantine Court.

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9. The Alhambra Court (The façade towards the nave with the entrance to the lions court.

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10. The Colossal Egyptian Figures.

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11. The German Mediaeval Vestibule.

12. ? [no mention on the website.]

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13. The Renaissance Court.

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14. The Three Graces

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15. Avenue in Front of the Fine Arts Courts.

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16. The Assyrian Court (Views from the base of the Colossal figures in the North Transept)

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17. The Garden Gallery.

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18. The Assyrian Court (Façade towards the Nave.

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19. The Assyrian Court (Viewed from beyond the fountain basin)

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20. The English Mediaeval Court (The Tomb of Edward the Black Prince from the Canterbury Cathedral.

http://www.usyd.edu.au/museums/collecti ... mbra.shtml


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4 – 6

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7 – 9

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10 – 12

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13 – 15

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16 – 18

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19 – 20

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Description from the back of one of this alternate set of Crystal Palace Art Union views.

Negretti and Zambra issued stereoviews of the Palace in daguerreotype, paper, glass, tissue. There are even more kinds of mounts I am aware of.

I am going to focus on the first numbered set of views by Negretti and Zambra.

The mounts are ivory/cream sometimes called tan.

Some examples seem to go pink with age.

During the period this set was published, N&Z switched to yellow mounts, with the same printed number and description on the back.

A later set was issued, with the same numbering and description, by a pasted on label, with bugs in the corner.

Another set, presumably later still was issued with these same labels but with the ends cut off, they are hand-numbered, but these numbers do not correspond with the previous list.

These are then followed by yellow mounts completely without any description or numbering.

The last set issued by Negretti and Zambra, again without numbering or description, are on a grey mount, with a snazzy brand of “Negretti & Zambra, similar to the same on photographs of members of the public.


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1. "THE NAVE, looking towards the North. The length of the Nave is 1608 feet; its width, 72 feet; and its height, from the floor to the top of the arch, 104 feet."

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[identical image as #2 of the first set of CP Art Union set.]

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3 ?

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6 Alhambra Court. [Identical to #6 first CP Art Union set.]

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7 [Identical to #7 of the first CP Art Union set.]

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8 [Identical to #8 of the first CP Art Union set.]


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11. German Medieval Vestibule. [Identical to # of the first CP Art Union set.]

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16 “THE ASSYRIAN COURT, viewed from the base of the Colossal Figures in the North Transept.” [similar to #16 of the first set of CP Art Union set of views.]

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22. “EXTERIOR OF THE PALACE, from the Grand Terraces.” [3 variant views.]

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23. “THE SHEFFIELD COURT.”

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24. The Egyptian Court from the north east gallery

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27. “THE PALACE, from the Rosary.”

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28. “SIDE VIEW OF THE BYZANTINE COURT.”

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31. “MONTI’S FOUNTAIN, AT THE NORTH END.”

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38 “THE SCREEN OF THE KINGS AND QUEENS OF ENGLAND.”

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39. “GENERAL VIEW IN THE TROPICAL DEPARTMENT. The Ninevah Court in the distance.”

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44. “VIEW FROM THE MUSIC COURT TO THE SOUTH TRANSEPT.”

45. “GENERAL VIEW OF THE PALACE, CASCADES AND LOWER FOUNTAINS.”

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46. “GENERAL VIEW OF THE POMPEIAN AND SHEFFIELD COURTS.”

47. “VIEW IN THE RENAISSANCE COURT.”

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48. “THE NORTH WING FROM THE TERRACE.”

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49 The Greek Court.

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50. Monti’s Fountain, and Nineveh Court. Tropical End

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51. Apollo Belvedere. In the Roman Court

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53 The Greek Court

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57. Avenue in front of the Sheffield Court, looking towards the Centre Transept

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58. “VIEW FROM THE MEDIAEVAL COURT TO THE ROMAN VESTIBULE.”

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62. “GENERAL VIEW OF THE GARDENS AND FOUNTAINS.”

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63. “GENERAL VIEW IN THE SOUTH TRANSEPT.”

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66. “NIOBE AND HER FAMILY. In the Sculpture Gallery.”

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70. "VIEW IN THE TROPICAL DEPARTMENT, from the Byzantine Court.”

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71. “THE TROPICAL DEPARTMENT, from the Alhambra Court.”

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73. "THE ALAHMBRA COURT.”

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74. No74 General view of the nineveh court from the gallery.

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76. “THE BYZANTINE COURT, with Statues of St. Peter, from the Church at Langen, near Darmstadt.”

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90. “ENTRANCE LOGGIA OF THE RENAISSANCE COURT.”

91. “SCULPTURE IN THE CLASSIC SCULPTURE GALLERY. Near the Greek and Roman Court.”

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100. “ENTRANCE TO THE ENGLISH MEDIAEVAL COURT. The Tintern Doorway.”

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101. "STATUES IN THE GREEK AND ROMAN SCULPTURE COURT."

102. "STATUES IN THE GREEK AND ROMAN SCULPTURE COURT."

103. “View in the court of Christian monuments. Two of the Irish Crosses stand to the left, and the Pocklington Cross, in the centre.”

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107. "THE COURT OF CHRISTIAN MONUMENTS. On the right is the Monument of Bishop Bridport, from Salisbury; on the left, the Pieta, by Rietschel, of Dresden.”

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110 “THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINXES, in the Tropical Department.”

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149. View of the antique sculpture gallery looking north

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Post by Falkor » 23 Dec 2007 17:29

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45 - "GENERAL VIEW OF THE PALACE, CASCADES AND LOWER FOUNTAINS" (cream mount)

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This one doesn't have a number or caption!? (yellow--"tan mount"?)
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Post by Falkor » 23 Dec 2007 20:11

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Post by Falkor » 23 Dec 2007 21:04

Found some more to edit into the list...
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Post by tulse hill terry » 24 Dec 2007 06:45

Well I've just read the Treadwell list you sent me.

Not sure what to make of it. The Americans continue to conflate the Great Exhibition, and the Crystal Palace. No doubt it contributes to their bidding so much for "Crystal Palace 1851."

I'm no expert on the Great Exhibition, but it was more of a commision with goverment patronage. The Crystal Palace at Sydenham was the property of a private company. The granting of permission to photgraph would be a completely differnt proposition I would have thought.

The title "Crystal Palace" comes from a Gaelic fairy tale, a dig by the magazine Punch, that the whole thing was a bit sillier than the earnest presentation of the Great Exhibition, necessary of course to allay the fears of such an unprecedented [in scale] public gathering, so soon after omens of revolution.

They do love T. R. Williams, don't they, he seems to be given credit for nearly every stereoview. It was early days in terms of the publishing of photography, so I imagine it was an incestuous situation, I just read on Wikipedia that N&Z commissioned a series of views from Francis Frith, about the time he would have been ideally placed to buy the "knock off" negatives of the 1859 Delamotte prints!

I long ago got sick of seeing so many images of the architectural courts. We only see what people at the time bought, and took away with them. Going by the amount of copies of #1 view, it must have sold 10 to 1 against all the rest. And what of the large prints for sale at the N&Z stand? No doubt pride of place in some Great Exhibition collection. "And this is of the expo in Hyde Park, don't you love the figures of Aboo Simbel."

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Post by Falkor » 24 Dec 2007 13:19

Well done, Terry! Your list has *almost* become what I, personally, would term "profusely illustrated"! :D :D :D So not quite ready for publication yet! :wink: All you got to do is edit in #45 and #62. :P Before you send me a proof read, don't forget to include all the fronts in the final PDF! :twisted:

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Post by tulse hill terry » 4 Jan 2008 00:12

YELLOW MOUNTED STEREOVIEWS.

As I have stated above there are varying degrees of overlap with all the different series of mounts for stereoviews by Negretti and Zambra.

The series of yellow-mounted stereoviews, with descriptive labels with bugs in the corners on the back of series, matches the descriptions on the cream mounted views.

A later series again, occasionally uses the same labels, with the ends bearing the bugs cut off, and handwritten numbering. There are also yellow-mounted stereoviews with plain backs, but the same shape and size of image.

These last two series seem to match the list below, which I have illustrated with what examples I know of. There are some to add after I have cropped them out of scans of job lots.

I don’t know that I would use some of the descriptions listed.

1. French Mediaeval Court.

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2. View in the Tropical Department.

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3. English Mediaeval Court.

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4. Telescope Gallery.

5. Monument to Bishop Bridport.

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6. View in North Transept [Mammoth Tree.]

7. View of Byzantine Court.

8. Doorway of Renaissance Court.

9. View of Renaissance Court.

10. Screen of Kings and Queens.

11. View in Tropical Department.

12. View in Renaissance Court.

13. View in English Mediaeval Court.

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14. Terrace View from the south Wing.

15. “The Mourners.”

16. Alhambra Court.

17. Greek Court.

18. The Nave looking North.

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19. View of Park and the Fountains.

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20. Byzantine Court.

21. Court of Christian Monuments.

22. Belvedere Apollo.

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23. View in Egyptian Court.

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24. View in Egyptian Court.

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25. View from Lower Fountains.

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26. View in Egyptian Court.

27. View in Egyptian Court.

28. View in Alhambra Court.

29. View in the Rosery.

30. View in Renaissance Court.

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31. View from Grand Terrace.

32. Renaissance Court.

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33. View in Renaissance Court.

34. View in Renaissance Court.

35. View in Tropical Department.

36. Court of Christian Monuments.

37. View in the Greek Court.

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38. View in English Mediaeval Court.

39. English Mediaeval Court.

40. View in Renaissance Court.

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41. Monti Fountain.

42. View in Italian Court.

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43. View from Railway Entrance.

44. View from South Wing.

45. English Mediaeval Court.



46. Egyptian Court.

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47. Garden Gallery.

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48. Roman Court.

49. View in Byzantine Court.

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50. View in Tropical Department.

51. View from Lower Fountain.

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52. Ancient Sculpture Gallery.

53. Greek Court.

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54. Byzantine Court.

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55. Extinct Animals.

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56. Greek Court.

57. The Nave looking North.

58. Ancient Sculpture Court.

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59. View from Lower Fountains.

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60. View from the Greek Court.

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61. English Medieval Court.

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62. Greek Court.

63. Italian Court.

64. Italian Court.

65. Doorway in Byzantine Court.

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66. Crystal Fountain to Screen.

67. English Mediaeval Court.

68. Egyptian Court.

69. View in Byzantine Court.

70. Egyptian Court from the Nave.

71. Façade of the Renaissance Court.

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72. View in Egyptian Court.

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73. "Model of St. Peters’."

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74. Pompeian Court.

75. View from Grand Terrace.

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76. View in Alhambra Court.

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77. Ancient Sculpture Court.

78. View in Egyptian Court.

79. View in Greek Court.

80. View in Renaissance Court.

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81. View in Egyptian Court.

82. Una and Lion.

83. Tropical Department.

84. Elizabethan Vestibule.

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85. Monti Fountain.

86. View from Lower Fountains.

87. View in Garden Gallery.

88. View in Garden Gallery

89. Fine Arts Gallery.

90. View in North Transept.

91. The Nave looking South.

92. View in Byzantine Court.

93. English Mediaeval Court.

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94. View in Egyptian Court.

95. Egyptian Court.

96. View in Pompeian Court.

97. Screen of Kings and Queens.

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98. Extinct Animals.

99. View in Garden Gallery.

100. View from Greek Court.

101. The Nave looking North.

102. View in Greek Court.

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103. Egyptian Court.

104. View in Egyptian Court.

105. View in Tropical Department.

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106. View from North Tower.

107. View from East Gallery.

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108. Court of [Christian] Monuments.

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109. Alhambra Court.

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110. Temple of Aboo Simbel.

111. Nineveh Court.

112. View in Tropical Department.

113. Alhambra Court from the Nave.

114. Tropical Department.

115. View of Nineveh Court.

116. View in Tropical Department.

117. View in the Nave.

118. View in Italian Court.

119. Ancient Sculpture Court.

120. Psyche. [by Theed]

121. Venus Vinitrice. [by John Gibson]

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122. Minerva Defending a Warrior. [by Blaeser]

123. Jane Shore [by John Bell]

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124. Handel Festival.

125. Godiva [by Calder Marshall]

126. Eurydice [by Nantieul]

127. Sabrina [by Calder Marshall]

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128. Royal Box.

129. Flora [by John Gibson]

130. Aurora [by John Gibson]

131. Venus and Cupid [by John Gibson]

132. First Whisper of Love [by Calder Marshall]

133. Venus [by Bertel Thorwaldsen]

134. [Missing]

135. [Missing]

136. Ancient Monuments Court.

137. Monuments Court.

138. Nineveh Court.

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139. The Nave looking South.

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140. View from the Water Temple.

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141. View of Screen of Kings and Queens.

142. View from Railway Entrance.

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143. View of South Transept.
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Post by tulse hill terry » 17 Mar 2008 20:24

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18 out of the 20 first Delamotte - Crystal Palace stereoviews, stereoscopes, stereographs.

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Post by tulse hill terry » 24 Mar 2008 20:04

Looks like they're off to join the other set in Australia for £300! :cry:

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Post by Tom » 6 Aug 2009 04:44

THTerry-
I believe I have no. 38 and no. 68 to your Crystal Palace collection.
It has been a while since you posted, is this still of interest to you?

Please advise.
Very best,
Tom

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Re: Stereoviews of the Crystal Palace by Negretti & Zambra

Post by dupont » 31 Aug 2014 08:27

I have numbers 29, 74 and an un-numbered card found today if interested in adding to the collection. Regards Matthew

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